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Kopprasch Studies
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I am staring at the title page of my Kopprasch, "60 Selected Studies", and
I wonder from what reservoir these 60 studies were selected. How many
studies did he compose, and where are the rest of them, the ones that were
not selected?
On the other hand, I see on my Breitkopf & Hartel's edition of his op.5,
"Etudien fu:r Alt-Horn", that neither this nor the op.6 "Etudien fu:r
Bass Horn" say that the studies were selected.
So, are there more Kopprasch studies, unpublished?
David Goldberg
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Lets face it, if you can play all 60 studies with transpositions up to
speed, what difference does it make.
James P. Freund
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So, are there more Kopprasch studies, unpublished?
As I've heard it, Kopprasch wrote 100 excercizes for high horn and 100
excercizes for low horn. The 60 selected studies that we all know and
love today come mostly from his high horn book, with a smattering of some
from the low horn book.
Where are they? No clue.
Tom
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Find out more than most people would want to know about Georg Kopprasch in
my home page at
http://www2.potsdam.edu/CRANE/ericsojq/original_kopprasch.htm
The "60 Selected Studies" are the complete Op. 6 of Kopprasch, etudes for
Cor Basse. The Op. 5 etudes are for Cor Alto.
Dr. John Q. Ericson
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Gang,
The catalog entry and an order form for the "90 Etudes - Complete Kopprasch, A
Practical Study for Transposition" can be found online at:
http://www.horndoggie.com/windmusic/
I personally prefer this edition above all others. This book includes a wider
array of transpositions, and includes other Kopprasch etudes that are not in
the well-known "60 etude" versions. In many of the etudes in this edition,
there are different notes and even entire phrases that differ from the more
known editions.
Also, Dr. Ericson has written an informative article which can be read online at:
http://www2.potsdam.edu/CRANE/ericsojq/original_kopprasch.htm
Finally, some of the "missing" etudes do appear within the two-volume "red"
and "blue" books published by Southern Music, and edited by Max Pottag and a
Mr. Andraud. I am at a remote location and away from my library, but the title
is something like "350 Selected Etudes."
A quick check in the Robert King Brass Players Guide could easily confirm this title...
-Bruce.
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In answer to David Goldberg's post concerning the Kopprasch etudes:
There are inded two volumes. Op. 5 includes 60 studies for High Horn. The
Op. 6 etudes, another 60 studies, are the ones with which we are most
familiar. These are for the Low Horn.
Opus 5 has many etudes similar in scope to the Opus 6, but exploring
different regions of the playing range. (many going to upper c, d, and an
occasional e-Ouch!!) The high horn set of studies are available. I seem
to recall Milan Yancich published these at one time (Wind Music). I
believe that Hans Pizka may be offering this in his catalogue too. (He was
very gracious in letting me peruse a copy for my dissertation research).
I find their value is more suitable for academic study. The low horn
studies are more applicable to modern technique. If you wish to study
range, then practice high horn transposition (A, C alto, B alto-this will
get you ready to play those early chamber orchestra works of the Baroque
and Roccoco periods).
Sincerely,
Eldon Matlick
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There are inded two volumes. Op. 5 includes 60 studies
for High Horn. The Op. 6 etudes, another 60 studies,
are the ones with which we are most familiar. These
are for the Low Horn.
The high horn set of studies are available. I seem
to recall Milan Yancich published these at one time (Wind
Music). I believe that Hans Pizka may be offering this
in his catalogue too.
Actually, Hans Pizka does not list these etudes in his
catalog. However, we are currently preparing a new,
reengraved edition of the op. 5 etudes, due out before
the end of the year, and will keep you posted.
David B. Thompson (President, Thompson Edition, Inc.)
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This brings up an interesting question that I have.
I recently received my music for an upcoming
Army band audition in DC and I noticed on of the
etudes requested, the list reads Koprasche #41.
I know Koprasche and it isn't 41. I think its the
Maxime Alphonse #41 (in one of the books??)
Well, unfortunately from your description I can't
tell you which etude it is that they sent you.
I can tell you what it is not. I agree with you
that it is not "Kopprasch no. 41." Neither the "no.
41" from the low horn etudes, op. 6, nor the "no.
41" from the high horn etudes, op. 5, is in 3/8
meter.
Neither is it Maxime-Alphonse no. 41. The only
only one of the six Maxime-Alphonse volumes which
reaches no. 41 is the first, all of the others
have contain at most 40 etudes. Book 1, No. 41
of Maxime-Alphonse isn't in 3/8 either.
Sorry I can't be of more assistance.
David B. Thompson
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Greetings listers,
KOPPRASCH'S book I no.22, Adagio espressivo M12, shows: tr=Orig.
- What is meant by :Orig.?
- A Trill is normally requested from one (1) note, not two as in this case in M12.!!
Bedtime readings in Arban and Chailly (BKs I and II) have not helped.
Any ideas on what the man wants?
Robert
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Friends,
I have heard Tuba players working on the Kopprasch studies too. Were
they written for horn?
LLB
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You can get them for Tbone too.
James P. Freund
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When I have to play Wagner Tuba, I prepare by playing Kopprasch on tuba. It
really helps!
Wes
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This volume, published by Milan Yancich is nothing else as Josef Schantlīs
3rd book of his "Great Theoretical & Practical Method". The selection was
made by Josef Schantl in Vienna before the turn of the century. I can prove
that, as I have the original setting (before going to CEFES Heilbronn
publisher) here in my personal library.
The high transpositions are not set to prepare for the baroque & roccoco
literature, as Eldon Matlick suggested, (who played this particular
literature at the turn of the century? NOBODY !), but it was a good tool, to
practise with HANDICAP, to prepare oneself for the worst. Remember, this was
done on single-F-Horns, the common instrument of that period.
Greetings from Munich
Prof.Hans Pizka
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Prof.-
Milan Yancich has published the 1st and (now as you have pointed out) the 3rd
volume of the Schantl method.
Have you published, or know of a source for the 2nd volume?
Kind regards,
-Bruce.
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To clarify the things for those teachers or students or colleagues, who
discuss things they have never seen in the original:
Josef Schantlīs Hornschule (Grand theoretical and practical School for the
Horn (natural Horn or Hunting Horn) and for the Valve-Horn edited by
Heinrich Schantl, Imperial Professor of the Vienna Music- and Opera-School,
German & English Edition by John Bernhoff) in 4 vols.:
- Vol.1: Naturhornschule (natural horn method)
- Vol.2a/b: Ventilhornschule (Grand theoretical & practical School for the
Horn as re-published by WINDMUSIC Inc., Milan Yancich, as a 100%
reproduction of the original first print)
This great method covers all basic music theory, all major & minor keys,
scales, interval studies, arpeggios, all possible expression markings,
variations, from low to extreme high horn.
- Vol.3: 120 kleine melodioese Tonstuecke ohne Begleitung, zur Erlernung des
Vortrages und Vorschule des Solo-Blasens (120 short melodic pieces without
accompaniment to train musical interpretation & introductory methode for
solo playing) - available by Pizka Edition
- Vol.4: 90 Etudes specially selected for advanced pupils, by Kopprasch and
Gallay and other Authorities for transposition (low & high), together with a
school preparatory to transposing, with annexed tables. - This book has been
published by WINDMUSIC Inc. as a 100% reproduction of the first print.
So the original inscriptions upon the first prints in my collection. The
original sketches to this great method are also part of my collection.
If one has studied all these four books, plus some Maxime-Alphonse books,
some Belloli Etudes, Carlo Bergonzi Etudes, some Ernst Paul advanced
transposition studies (Doblinger Wien), well, then one should be ready for
the sonatas & concertos. But it is a mistake to treat an immature student
with Strauss No.1 or even worse Strauss No.2 for a year or longer.
Greetings from Munich
Prof.Hans Pizka
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