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What _is_ a Mellophone??
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Whoa! Wait a minute. As far as I can tell, there are at least definitions
for "mellophone". Which definition you use probably depends on how old you
are. So be careful, or you will give away your age. ;-)
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No, No, No . . . a mellophone looks like a little "french" horn, but played
with the right hand and has piston valves. The left hand is not placed
inside the bell. It sounds mellow, I guess ;) and is played with a
trumpet/cornet mouthpiece.
These were used back in the 1930's, 1940's, 1950's and maybe somewhat
later, but they were pretty much obsolete by the time I started band in
the mid-60's. (You can quit doing the mental arithmetic; I am 42 if anyone
cares!)
In Jr. high band, our band director wanted to make sure everyone could
read Eb parts. We used a Hal Leonard method book, I think, and one year
the horns would get the Eb version, and the next year, the F version of
the book. The Eb book had a picture of a mellophone and a mellophone
fingering chart; The F book showed a regular (French) horn and had a
fingering chart for the double F/Bb horn.
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The instrument that the Csikos family refers to is part of a group of
instruments known generally as "Marching brass". These are instruments
designed specifically for marching bands. The "Marching French Horn" and
"mellophone" are part of this group. These seem to have become popular
only in the last 10 years or so.
Also, does anyone have a picture of a Mellophone, because I still can't
figure out what on earth they are :)
Now, as far as pictures go, there are lots of pictures of marching french
horn type things, but I do not know where to find any pictures of the old
(1930's) vintage mellophones.
Pictures of marching (french) horns, also known as mellophones can be
found at:
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I played one of these for a few weeks in 5th grade, until they could find
me a real horn. It is in Eb, and uses trumpet fingerings, and a
trumpet-like mouthpiece. My guess is that it was invented to allow surplus
trumpet players to cover the off-beats in marches, rather than wasting a
valuable horn-player on such drivel.
Mr. Csikos was describing a "marching mellophone," which everyone knows as
the humane alternative to the torture of marching with a Horn.
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I have 2 'concert' shaped mellophones that have been dated (ser #)
back to 1910. One was made by the Pan American Brass Co. (lacquered) and
the other by York Bros. (silver finish). If you'll get Robin to send me his
snail mail address, I'll try to get some snapshots of these to him. (I'm
off the list now until July 28, so tell him to email me at
mander@mastnet.net)
The "Marching French Horn" and "mellophone" are part of this group. These
seem to have become popular only in the last 10 years or so.
These have in use since the mid-70's actually. I think they are called
mellophones because they are a straightened out, bastardized version of the
old 'concert' mellophones; a cross between a horn and a trumpet, if you
will. I know lots of folks who affectionately (or otherwise) refer to
these beasts as 'frumpets' also.
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From a 1934 Conn Catalog:
62-E
Mellophone in F, Eb, D, C
Because it has a brilliant, colorful tone, because it is one of the easiest
of all wind instrument to master, and because of its very moderate price, the
Mellophone is widely used in school and beginning bands in place of the
French Horn whose place however it cannot take effectively in advanced work.*
Built in F with a complete set of slides in Eb, D and C which makes
transposing unnecessary. Gracefully designed with an 11 inch bell...
Weight about 4 pounds. Supplied complete but less case.
fin.2 fin.3 fin 4
$79 $74 $64
Case: Flannel lined, $18.00; Crushed plush $21.00
*That's why it always sounds funny when I use it for Mahler!
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No, No, No . . . a mellophone looks like a little "french" horn, but played
with the right hand and has piston valves. The left hand is not placed
inside the bell. It sounds mellow, I guess ;) and is played with a
trumpet/cornet mouthpiece.
I don't want to start an argument here... but I don't mind walking in
during the
MIDDLE of one :-> An Eb tenor instrument (notice I didn't say HORN) that
looks like a Horn in mirror image is a "Concert Horn". I have a drop-dead
beautiful Alexander Eb Concert Horn that I used to play on parade when I
was in the USAF band at Travis AFB, CA (USA). It has real Horn valves with
little enclosed-drum springs and tiny rounded spatulas on the action. It
seems to me that I saw this setup on Alan Civil's Bb Alex at the Hartford
Connecticut IHS workshop in 1977 (did I get the year right?), does anyone
know or remember? I'm really not saying anyone is wrong about the names,
just that in the wake of a myriad of conflicting opinions I feel the need
to add my little bit of confusion. The following is what I ABSOLUTELY know
to be fact... (or bullfeathers):
- Mellophone -generic term for all of the below
- Tenor Horn -same as above
- Concert Horn -mirror of Horn, Eb tenor, no hand in bell (makes it
out-of-tune... Yuk, yuk, yuk)
- Marching Horn-big trumpet shape, forward facing bell, pitch related to
volume-level, not slides
- Alto horn -little euphonium shape, bell-front model is called
"Blat-Weasel", straight-up bell model called "Rain-Catcher", player called "Obnoxious",
tuned at the factory, no apparent user serviceable parts
- Altonium -113th Element on the periodic table, named after the location
of its discovery, in the "middle"
of nowhere
As usual, all this reminds me of a story:
When the Travis band would march in San Francisco, I would carry my Alex
Concert Horn for a day of sport. I played a combination of the 1st Trumpet
part and the Euphonium part by ear... the Euphie part up an octave. This
little German beauty, when used in anger (how else), could COVER the entire
row of healthy trumpet players, bathing them in mellifluous sonorities...
and neutering them at the same time. They got hazard pay when they marched
behind ME and my Alex. The side facing bell was a stroke of pure "Parade
Animal" genius, hats off to someone in Germany.
As we rounded a sharp right-hander near the end of the 1981 San Francisco
Memorial Day parade, I saw a group of anti-military protesters on my left
(I was on the outside left of the unit, marching SLOWLY while we made the
gate turn). I don't dislike people just because they don't like me, but in
this case I made an exception. As we passed the tightly packed group and
they stuck their signs in right in the faces of the guys (and girl) in
front of me, my course, yea my duty, became suddenly clear. I raised the
Alex's mighty bell to face straight-out to the left, inches from their
jeering faces... and summoned my adrenalin-soaked respiritory system for a
full "Bombs away!". The lead-pipe became suddenly hot. I blew till the
little Alex almost split open, my vision blurred, their vision was
eradicated. I had swooped out of the sun and caught them completely
unawares. I closed for the kill, "Bravura" blaring wildly, incoherently
from coiled, tortured Teutonic brass. My chops tingled, the sickening
stench of flaming, unwashed hair rapidly filled the air. Mountains of
twisted, white-hot sound wretched from my melting bell, generations of
noxious, unkempt protestors were stricken from the womb in that searing
moment of Brobdingnagian hippie-Hades Horn hootenanny. A few managed to
stand their ground in what was to be their one last act of defiance. They
stood fast, facial muscles contorted and frozen by a sonic reality not
imagined, yet somehow real. The rest scattered in a fog of stale incense,
like rotting chaff into a cleansing wind. They tramped on one-another's
faces to escape their comrade's awful fate, at once abandoning their
"we-are-one"-ness and replacing it with the horrors of their vain attempt
to escape the swift and sure annihilation of their sub-species by the
menacing mellophone, "Alto-Zilla the Alto Killah".
Wherever candles are lit, wherever World-Peace rallies are held, and
wherever the suffering of the fold and the horrors of nuclear skirmish are
remembered with reverence and silent mourning, those who stood their ground
and bravely relinquished their reproductive futures are held dear in the
hearts of loyal. Those brave few who selflessly stood firm in the jaws of
deaf, forsaking common sense and subjecting themselves to certain
sterilization. The few, the proud, the barren SIGN-PEOPLE of San Francisco.
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In contemporary usage, "mellophone" is the name given to an instrument with
a cornet mouthpiece receiver, pitched in F and looking something like a trumpet on steroids. The pitch is the same as the high F side of a descant horn (one octave higher than the F side of a standard double).
"Marching French Horn" is used to mean a somewhat larger instrument, still coiled
like a trumpet or more typically a flugelhorn, pitched in B-flat (the sam
e
length as the B-flat side of a standard double horn), and with a french
horn mouthpiece receiver.
So the mellophone takes a cornet mouthpiece (unless you use some kind of
adaptor) and fingerings (usually with a lot of alternate fingerings to ge
t
anywhere close to in tune). The marching french horn takes a horn
mouthpiece and uses B-flat horn fingerings (usually pretty well in tune b
ut
with serious stability and focus problems above the staff on any brand I'
ve
ever tried--King, Yamaha, Conn, DEG, Kanstul).
When I say "contemporary usage," I mean what the manufacturers are callin
g
them in their catalogs. I do not know of any manufacturer currently
producing the classic "backward horn" shaped mellophone, but if anyone el
se
does I'd love to hear about them, just out of curiosity.
I think it was Conn that started the whole switchover when they came out
with the instrument *I* marched in high school--it was basically the
classic "backward horn" mellophone, but with the bell unwrapped so it
pointed in exactly the opposite direction from the mouthpiece. It even
came with both an F and E-flat slides (or would it be crooks?)! Now if
only they had played even remotely in tune with themselves....
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The instrument that the Csikos family refers to is part of a group of
instruments known generally as "Marching brass". These are instruments
designed specifically for marching bands. The "Marching French Horn" and
"mellophone" are part of this group. These seem to have become popular
only in the last 10 years or so.
Well, the Blue Devils had a mellophone bugle solo in their Drum Corps
International world championship show in 1976. :)
Pictures of marching (french) horns, also known as mellophones can be
found at:
The problem here is with semantics. The mellophone is the old instrument
you refer to. The Marching French Horn and mellophonium are what are
commonly used in marching bands, but they are called mellophones, despite
that not being the name of the instrument. Hey, rather similar to the
discrepancy with the name of our own concert instrument, no? :)
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As we rounded a sharp right-hander near the end of the 1981 San Francisco
Memorial Day parade, I saw a group of anti-military protesters on my left
(I was on the outside left of the unit, marching SLOWLY while we made the
gate turn). I don't dislike people just because they don't like me, but in
this case I made an exception. As we passed the tightly packed group and
they stuck their signs in right in the faces of the guys (and girl) in
front of me, my course, yea my duty, became suddenly clear. I raised the
Alex's mighty bell to face straight-out to the left, inches from their
jeering faces... and summoned my adrenalin-soaked respiritory system for a
full "Bombs away!". The lead-pipe became suddenly hot. I blew till the
little Alex almost split open, my vision blurred, their vision was
eradicated. I had swooped out of the sun and caught them completely
unawares. I closed for the kill, "Bravura" blaring wildly, incoherently
from coiled, tortured Teutonic brass. My chops tingled, the sickening
Wow. That was beautiful. That stirring story about the forces of
good (obviously represented by the horn) winning over the forces of evil
(read: anyone who annoys a horn player) truly touched a soft spot in my
heart. The masterful use of poetic structures was a monument to writing.
But mostly, it's just nice to know that I'm not the only person who uses
the word "Brobdingnagian."
<grin>
Bonus points for anyone who knows the etymology of the word...
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A mellophone is an instrument resembling a trumpet with a slightly smaller
than a horn's bell. It has a mellow sound, hence the name mellophone, and
is regularly played in marching bands as a substitute for a horn.
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OK, Robin - this is a description of the only mellophone it has been my
displeasure to encounter - a King Blastophone, I believe. Imagine, if you
will, a flugelhorn with a baritone bell, cor de chasse tubing wrap and
trumpetized horn mouthpiece. It's rather like a camel, which I've heard
described as an animal designed by a committee.
Others may have more specific information....
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Someone wanted to know about marching horns, mellophones, and flugelhorns.
Marching horn - a marching (bell forward) configuration of what is
usually a Bb alto (same as Bb side of double horn) 'horn'tuned to be
played without a hand in the bell. Designed to play approximately in
tune with a real horn mouthpiece.
Mellophone - a marching configuration (usually) of an instrument that
was originally an F alto piston valve instrument coiled the opposite
way from a horn, and played without a hand in the bell. Sometimes
said to look like a "cornet on steroids" and usually designed (tuned)
to use a mouthpiece closer to that of a trumpet than a real horn.
Flugelhorn - a mezzo-soprano tuba held horizontally (historically, a
valved bugle) and pitched in the same Bb as a trumpet/cornet. Most
distinguished by extremely wide bell throat that is almost
straight-sided, with very little flair. Generally played with a
mouthpiece that looks a lot like a cornet one on the outside, but
conceals a deep almost horn-like funnel cup. Primarily thought of
as a double for trumpet players, rather than hornists, although with
a 4th valve one could play most march horn parts on it.
To sum up, if your marching instruments are in F alto, they are most
likely marching mellophones.
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There are so many different opinions regarding the mellophone debate. Here is the scoop---
A mellophone is a bell front piece of crap pitched in F and used to march with. We can thank Stan Kenton for this little gem. No matter what, it's OUT OF TUNE! I own one, but I don't often admit it!
A mellophonium is a mirror of a horn, bell left, Another piece of crap with pistons. It doesn't matter where you put your hand, it's gonna be OUT OF TUNE! I have a perfect 1929 conn with crooks in F G Bb and D. Pretty, but worthless!!!
A tenor horn (or Alto horn, same thing) is configured like a tiny baritone, some are bellfront, others are bell up. The bell up version looks just like a british baritone and is pitched in Eb. Some have F crooks, and all are OUT OF TUNE! I have a new Besson tenor horn, sounds sweet, and plays in tune.
None compare to the best brass instument of all, the horn. No crooks, in tune, and awesome!!!
I have a Conn 8D nickel silver beauty. Plays great.
Ron L
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